30. The Beatles, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder (who was actually even DISCOVERED by one of The Miraclesthe late Ronnie White) and THE WHOSo. Laura Nyro: 4/10 From 2016: Posted by FRL on Wednesday, 05/19/2021 @ 22:30pm. Talking Heads: 9/10 Outside of Madonna, 2008 was a stellar year. Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. 1995 191. ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others 26. Dire Straits - 1 Todd Rundgren-Level 1 Deep Purple- 4 -Most influential? Posted by John R.C. - This is going off the paperback version which includes everything up to the '09-'10 season. But, he had to join a 73-win team to get there. Based on my top 100 Favorite Artists list and looking at the ones who are in the RRHOF, I'll go with Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, Louis Jordan & His Tympani Five, David Bowie, Fats Domino, Nat King Cole/The Nat King Cole Trio, and Little Richard. 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009. Donna Summer (middle 3rd) Level 4 Posted by Zach on Thursday, 11/27/2014 @ 23:32pm. "Determination" The Contours. 4. Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:25am, Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:26am. The Hobbit Def Leppard: 6/10 **************** THE MIRACLES **************** Is the top rung ever going to be added to? Etta James: 9/10 He is quite vital (i don't think anyone can claim to be the best selling artist in 2 different decades). Solid list, I'd bump up Hakeem to in the top ten and I would have KG somewhere in the 15-20 range personally. Wes Unseld, 47. Metallica Eminem (Level 4) Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. 2. Depeche Mode-1 Beyond that, a proper redesigning would go something like this: And it would be hard to fit both of them in level 5. Little Anthony: Influenced Donna Summer. Green Day: 9/10 HARDLY !! Jerry Lee Lewis The O'Jays The Yardbirds Not quite as cluttered, not as much space. DEFINITELY !! Can't see any update yet. Del Shannon Little Richard I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. Tina Turner: 9/10 45. Not one bad inductee among either class. Bob Marley or Jimmy Cliff The Paul Butterfield Blues Band He's slightly ahead of Scottie because Wade took over the 2006 Finals and Scottie never really managed to be that guy - even in '94 when he finished 3rd in the MVP voting. Yes: 7/10 Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. ZZ Top Percy Sledge Sometimes he wasn't good enough. "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett the Studio Group The Pretenders (Level 2) Best hip hop: I don't much care for it, but even I would concede Public Enemy's suitability. 220. 2 America - a secret airline run by the CIA - flew missions no one else would touch, from General Claire Cennault's legendary Flying Tigers in WW II Ray Charles The Beatles: 10/10 Revising lol, Earth, Wind & Fire: 8/10 187. Sex Pistols: 9/10 The Cars Tom Waits: 8/10 Heart George Harrison: 8/10 Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 14:23pm, 2022 inductees: The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The NBA according to The Sports Guynow updated with fresh takes on LeBron, the Celtics, and more! Sam Cooke: 10/10 I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. Paul Pierce, 53. Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. "We have developed computational methods to measure historical significance through analysis of Wikipedia and other data sources. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis, and Chuck Berry: Bob Dylan, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Cream, Creedence Clearwater Revival, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Sam Cooke, The Stooges. Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? -Quietest? Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Lyrics to me are merely a supplement to music. 212. Muddy Waters (Level 5) Donna Summer- 4, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/27/2018 @ 05:22am. Their experimentation? Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 I suppose you could make a case for T. Rex, Depeche Mode, or Whitney Houston moving up a level, but keeping them in Level 1 is fine. Both were the darlings of the same type of audience in their day, but REM was a very different type of band. Their career ended through poor records and/or changing tastes. The Heat had three Pyramid guys including a Level 5 and Level 4 guy in their primes. Green Day is maybe a 2. 71. So, since I've had some free time, I took it upon myself to update the original Hall of Fame Pyramid and figured I'd share. 173. See More by this Creator. Yes "I'll Try Something New" Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me") Which performers you think will be the next inductees? If the Bucks win the title? LEVEL FOUR ? Eventually, the powers that be will finally realize that Rush deserves to have a spot on the third tier, if not the fourth tier. The Doobie Brothers: 6/10 Posted by AlexVoltaire on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 10:45am. 161. Bonnie Raitt Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. 9. Traffic: 7/10 "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. I'm coming up with a questionnaire/survey on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's inductees. 51. Buddy Holly & The Crickets: 10/10 Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 14:24pm, How about a pyramid for the Early Influence category, with Wanda Jackson and Freddie King as a 1 because they never should have been inducted in that category? ", Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 22:04pm, Desmond, LEVEL 4 ? 164. ABBA: 7/10 ELO Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/19/2019 @ 16:38pm. Level 4: The Doors The Lion King, Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 20:04pm. Kevin Johnson, 106. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. Nirvana and Radiohead belongs in the third. Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? -I've heard stories that James Brown was a ballbuster. Janis Joplin 92. He didn't make ESPN's recent list of the 74 best players ever which is straight dumb. Dylan, Buddy Holly, Led Zep, Hendrix Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 07:27am, And here is my opinion about the position of the 2018 inductees: Carole King-Level 1 I'd bump them up to Level 2 simply because of how they advanced a genre that was pretty much on the fringes before they came along. Tracy McGrady, 89. Pearl Jam Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 08:03am, Deep Purple/NWA- Level 2 I understand their attempts, and respect it to some degree. Journey - 1 I didn't ask for it. Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 16:03pm. Michael Jackson, but considering his upbringing I can't really blame him for that. 82. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:56am. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? And I'd love to invent a 0 just for Def Leppard. Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll. MORE PROOF !!! 1988 Woody Guthrie I blame the clowns on the committee for it - but Deep Purple should be on this list AND at level 3. If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. That's all I have. Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. Joan Baez RHCP: 9/10 1 bestselling book from 2009. He took a Magic team with no other All-Stars to the Finals while beating LeBron in LeBron's prime. The Notorious B.I.G. However, when an artist offends me so deeply that I can only summon feelings of outright hatred for their music, it's almost impossible for me to maintain any kind of objectivity. Fats Domino. Nine Inch Nails Ruth Brown The Police: 9/10 Proper evaluation of influence can certainly be biased by opinion; but overall it is rather easy to research to see historically the impact an artist had by tracking musicians that copied them, or directly cite them as major influences. Donovan: 7/10 Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03.8.13 @ 15:51pm Genesis: 7/10 The Beastie Boys Bob Pettit. 112. Level Five: All those folks on the "Ancient Aliens" Series (we'll need some laughs besides the Stooges), Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:11pm. Doobie Brothers-5 Tina Turner is solely on Level 2 for star power and that's it. Muddy Waters: 10/10 It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. Red Hot Chili Peppers 4) MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS at # 96 James Taylor: 8/10 on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:25pm. Billy Joel: 9/10 James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, and Linda Rondnstadt 66. ISBN: 978-0345511768 and 034551176X. Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. Most loudest inductee (outside the Metal genre)? You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). Bon Jovi- 1 I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. bill Bill Simmons Player Pyramid simmon Today's Top Quizzes in Sports Browse Sports hide this ad Today's Top Quizzes in Basketball Browse Basketball Top Contributed Quizzes in Sports 1 2022 World Cup Stars 2 Name Just One - 10 to 1: Sports 3 Gardiens vs Mbapp 4 World Cup Champions by Poster 5 Name Just One - 10 to 1: NFL 6 According to the picture, that's where Level 5 is. 8. 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